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Posted: 29 May 2009 at 11:17 | IP Logged  

Thank you very much utesa, but do you know how this applies to pensions???

I know that when you record a pension expense, you record it net of tax, and you record either a DTA or a DTL....but that is where I'm confused as to which one applies.  Is it related to the overfunded/underfunded status?

I'm sorry I was unclear in my previous question.



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Posted: 29 May 2009 at 11:59 | IP Logged  

oh oh oh...I think I might have just gotten it!

When you record a pension LOSS (or PSC or net transition obligation) in OCI, it's a DTA.  (Because you haven't recognized the expense yet for tax purposes, but you know that it will come soon???)

When you record a pension GAIN (or net transition asset) in the OCI, it's a DTL. 

When you take it out of OCI and put it into the I/S (amortize), you simply reclassify it from a deferred tax benefit/expense in OCI to a deferred tax benefit/expense in net income.

I don't really understand the concept behind this DTL/DTA stuff for pensions, but I think memorization will do for this particular topic.  Please let me know if you have any additions!

 



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sorry I didn't mean to confuse you, I may have read something wrong, my explanation was about general deferred taxes. 

For Pension just deduct the tax when you calc. the components amount. Always the amount calculated * (1-tax rate). I think examiners would not ask if it is DTA or DTL (in pension). I do not recall seen any question in pension where I had to identify that.

 



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cflas08 wrote:

Jdot514 wrote:
Does anyone have any good notes
on pensions?  I have the exam on Sunday, and pensions is the only
topic I haven't covered...it's hard for me to wrap my mind around it
(plus it's my least favorite topic).  Anyway, I'd appreciate it if you could
share any notes or overview of pensions.  Thanks!


I posted this link in another section on cpanet. This is the student
companion site for an intermediate accounting book I used in college.
The textbook is published by Wiley and the site includes PowerPoint
slides and quiz questions to get practice. The slides have helped me
tremendously because I haven't studied this stuff in over 3 years.


action=chapter&bcsId=2995&itemId=0471749559&chapterId=22160" >htt
p://bcs.wiley.com/he-bcs/Books?action=chapter&bcsId=2
995&itemId=0471749559&chapterId=22160
action=chapter&bcsId=2
995&itemId=0471749559&chapterId=22160">


I think Pensions is Chapter 20. I hope the slides help you.



hi.. i am studding FAR.. exam on 9th July.. can u pl. help me with some
chapters.. in which state are u? pl. give me ur email ID.. my id is
alwaysok24@rediffmail.com

thanks in advance

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