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Posted: 31 Oct 2008 at 20:26 | IP Logged  

Dahlia1, "Most of all I like honest people and it is really hard to find them now days" - your attitude will kill you. :-) My life experience shows that it's better not to trust people who don't trust anybody around them. :-)


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eddie500, it was a bad judgment on your part. :-) It's pretty obvious that (on average) engineers will always make more money than accountants. Engineers actually produce something. :-) Nano-tech, though a very intersting area, doesn't offer that many jobs. To get into research, you need to have a PhD. Would you be willing to study for 10+years to get to that level? Anyway, if you really were into engineering and really good in physics, chemistry, and math, you would never go into accounting. :-) Geeks just don't do it. :-) I live with one, and know many more since I hand out with my husband's friends pretty often. :-)
So, I would suggest not to see everything in such a dark light. It's difficult to find your first job. For almost everybody. Once you have 2+ years of experience, you will feel much better. :-) Accounting is not boring or tedious. Every job is just what you make out of it.


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eddie500 wrote:

Ernst & Young which always recruicted heavily on my campus did not even give any interviews for Audit and Tax positions. I was told they have already met their quotas. I've also head the bad news from other accounting firms, scaling back and even cancelling positions that were offered.

I also noticed that Deloitte really scaled back on how many people they interviewed and did not even extend any interviews for tax on my campus.

Accounting is not anymore the profession where its easy to find jobs. It will only get worse. Everybody and their mother, from every corner of the world is trying to get employment in America as an accountant, top that off with the fact that Accounting is now the "IN" college major in America,its going to get even more competitive. Couple that with the fact that finance is now dead. 

I've been noticing and talking about this trend, I've  seen how students think Accounting is the new "stock broker job", many of these "frat" boy types who should be in marketing are choosing accounting. I've noticed that many foriegn countries are educating their students to specifically come to America for accounting jobs. I've also seen how Accounting has exploded in my university and how every year is a new high in the amount of accounting graduates in the country, with probably no end in sight.

Personally, I made a big mistake by choosing accounting. This is my opinion however. Its ultra competitive, requires no creativity or ingenuity, you are competiting with people based on how cool you are, who you know, how good looking you are, and with every attrative women. Not with your quality of work or how well you may be able to help the clients. Its business after all, they need salesmen to sell their *removed*ty non-audit services.

Some years back I was going to make a career change into Nano-technology, and boy did I make a mistake not following through. I could now be on the forefront of science, inventing the future, working on interesting projects with a cause and purpose, and work that benifits people and people appreciate. I would be competing with people based on what I know and what I have done, not based on personality or how good looking you are.

Why have I choosen accounting? Because I honestly wanted to be a "big time stock broker" and thought it would be better getting a CPA to find a job in this area. The problem today is that the "big time stock broker" profession is pretty much non-existant when it all went electronic.

Well.... this is more or less a rant, and most of it is my opinion, if you have a different opinion please post it. My recomendation to people going into accounting is to look at other options, and I tell this to people all the time. I've worked in public accounting for 5 months in the past and it was the most boring-pathetic work I've done. If you can work in other areas, especially engineering or similar industries, you should consider looking elsewhere.

 

 

 



I'm feeling ya, man. Bad economy.


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After much deliberation I'm actually thinking about joining the NYC fire department. Yes, it is surprising that after all these years of school, passing the CPA exam, almost a masters in taxation I would make such a move.

Its comes down to quality of life for me at this point. I would rather work 2 days (2 24 hour shifts), run into fires, rescue people,  hang out with the guys at the firehouse, etc. than sit behind a desk and account for other people's messes and headache's. If i want more money I can start my own business,  like most other firemen do. I need excitement at my job and accounting just doesn't do it for me.



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"After much deliberation I'm actually thinking about joining the NYC fire department. Yes, it is surprising that after all these years of school, passing the CPA exam, almost a masters in taxation I would make such a move."

Perhaps you should look into federal law enforcement.  There are the main agencies everyone thinks of (FBI, ATF, IRS-CI, Postal Inspectors, etc.).  Plus, most every department in federal government has an Office of Inspector General that employs criminal investigators.  They are all federal series 1811 employees, and receive the same (or at least roughly equivalent) pay and benefits.

With a masters, you would start as a GS-9, which would be approx $58,000 (including law enforcement availability pay LEAP), depending on post of duty location.

Oh, I almost forgot my main point.  Applicants with accounting backgrounds are very desirable for many of these positions.

Good Luck!



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