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Posted: 30 Mar 2009 at 19:55 | IP Logged  

this is from the IRS site:

Business Start-Up and Organizational Costs

Business start-up and organizational costs are generally capital
expenditures. However, you can elect to deduct up to $5,000 of business
start-up and $5,000 of organizational costs paid or incurred after
October 22, 2004. The $5,000 deduction is reduced by the amount your
total start-up or organizational costs exceed $50,000. Any remaining
costs must be amortized. For information about amortizing start-up and
organizational costs, see chapter 8.

Start-up costs include any amounts paid or incurred in connection with
creating an active trade or business or investigating the creation or
acquisition of an active trade or business. Organizational costs include
the costs of creating a corporation. For more information on start-up and
organizational costs, see chapter 8.

more confused .....

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This is the rest from IRS web

...How to make the election.    You elect to deduct the start-up or organizational costs by claiming the deduction on the income tax return (filed by the due date including extensions) for the tax year in which the active trade or business begins....

so it is one or the other...

This is what IRS is trying to say: "call it what you want but it all falls under same treatment category" 5K first year deduction and you can ammortize the rest separetaly or combined will not make any difference.

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What happens when organizational cost exceed the $50k, what if organ cost is $200K do you deduct $5k expense and additionaly take amort in same taxable year of start up. 

MCQ in Wiley are very confusing about amort, even in Becker.



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when organizational cost exceeds 50,000 - $5,000 is reduced by amount that exceeds $50,000. Hence if organizational cost if $200k, $5,000 is not allowed & $200K * no. of months  is the allowed amortization.
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Ok thanks that helps to clear up.

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