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Topic: AVOID THIS TRAP ( Topic Closed)
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bmwgirl95 Newbie
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Posted: 02 Dec 2009 at 19:53 | IP Logged
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Hi Jack_Nola,
I am sorry to hear about you situation. I am in your shoes! But I live in California. But my suggestion would be to see if you can get your record expunged. I am not sure what Louisiana's laws are, but in California once your record is expunged, you do not have to report it on your job applications and it will not show up in employer background checks. That is what I did because I knew this would be a problem for me as well.
However, I think for the state we would still have to disclose the expungment, but I think the bigger problem is with the companies doing the hiring. I know for a fact that once expunged, it does NOT show up on employment background checks, and you are allowed to answer no on the applications.
Hope this helps a little.
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onlyregleft Regular
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Posted: 04 Dec 2009 at 02:05 | IP Logged
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Yes, you can petition the courts to have your DUI conviction expunged. Make sure you have someone you can trust in California who is able to file the petitions with the courts on your behalf. It can become a costly process.
On another thought, is a DUI considered a traffic violation? Do you have to report misdemeanor traffic violations?
Also, I thought that background screens usually don't go back more than 10 years unless it is to obtain security clearance for a position having classified information.
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Posted: 22 Feb 2010 at 02:57 | IP Logged
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Definately do the expungement in California. I have a friend who had a felony DUI on his record from 2001. That felony DUI was killing him when he was looking for a job. He used a legal firm who specializes in expungements and it cost him $800 to get it done. Took about 2 months. He found the firm on the internet. I was very scepticle of this and thought for sure the law firm was a scam, but it wasn't.
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cflas08 Major Contributor
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Posted: 28 Feb 2010 at 20:14 | IP Logged
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Jack_NOLA wrote:
Be careful not to make this mistake:
Wanting more money, in 2003 I returned to school to complete my education, left unfinished, after 20 years of working at the more routine levels of accounting.
I earned my BA, then MS Tax (05/09), and passed the CPA exam (01/09). (BTW, for me, Becker was THE only reason for passing on first sitting.)
Now satisfying Louisiana's one year experience requirement is all I have left for licensure; but. I have not been able get a job working for a CPA, in Louisiana, as a direct result of my two misdemeanor driving under the influence convictions one in 1975, the other in 1979. I have had no other criminal problems since then.
A little background here: my last jobs were in California, but I had to move back to Louisiana due to my parents getting older. Although I did not realize this while there, in California, it's against the law to consider convictions older than 7 years in the hiring process; and, in any case, from my and others' experience practically all California based companies only ask about felony convictions.
Until the last two months, I had not even considered the possibility that in Louisiana, the vast majority of companies take into the hiring decision any conviction other than a minor traffic violation. (Though, oddly enough, the State Board of CPAs of Louisiana only asks about felonies.) Also Louisiana, unlike many other states, does not allow any type of conviction to be expunged.
I've wasted six years, working part-time in a bookkeeping job where the employer didn't ask about misdemeanor convictions. I also ran up $100K in student loans and lost considerable income that I could have earned over those six years if I had been working full-time.
The result of all this is that, in Louisiana, CPA firms and most of the industry positions hiring CPA's do ask about ANY conviction(s). Of course, I will not lie on the employment applications and accordingly have listed these two convictions. Three CPA firms turned me down flatly stating (paraphrasing) that one DUI is tolerable, but two is indicative of deeper problems. Two great companies, who initially were enthusiastic about talking to me, refused to return any calls after I filled out their applications.
So with a great job history, sterling references, a solid education AND having passed the CPA exam (NASBA conducts a thorough felony criminal background check, which I obviously passed, before allowing a candidate to sit for the exam), I can't get my license because no Louisiana company wants to take on someone with two DUI convictions, even from over thirty years ago.
Had I even considered the possibility of these two misdemeanor DUI convictions, preventing me from obtaining employment as a CPA, I would have either not pursued the CPA designation or remained in California. At this time, moving back there is almost an impossibility.
And finally, I really feel like dying because, in addition to the devastation of my lifetime career objective, dredging up my long forgotten criminal past, in front of highly respected accounting professionals has been the ultimate in humiliation. I now feel like a total sociopath; and, my self-esteem has reached lows I could have never before imagined.
I realize that the vast majority of CPA candidates won't have this type of issue to contend with, but for those who do, plan accordingly.
JRM
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I have a suggestion. Befriend a CPA. Then, convince that CPA to start a CPA firm with you but don't list yourself as a partner or shareholder. Just work under the CPA for one year and then have him/her sign off on your experience and that way you can get your license. Afterwards, you can take over the business or dissolve it. That's a good way to get around the licensing work experience issue.
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Posted: 20 Mar 2010 at 15:06 | IP Logged
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Just wanted to add my 2 cents - I would not recommend leaving it off the
application. I had a situation several years ago when I did a tour of duty
at my Big 4 firm in Human Resources. The client was a defense
contractor who did background checks on their project team, and found
out that one of our senior managers did not have a degree she said she
did. Even tho she worked for us for over 8 years, we had to fire her. Sad.
And VERY damaging to our relationship with that client.
I'd suggest working for a smaller CPA firm, and if they ask, be straight
with them and tell them you made this mistake back in the day, learned
from it, and it won't happen again.
GL -
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