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toyalisa
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I thought I was the only one that felt that way. I would be disappointed if I moved to another module and didn't see Phil or Cindy. I think both did a great job in FAR. I never knew anything about pensions before Phil and I got it right after watching the lecture. As much as I didn't like him in AUD, I thought Gary did a great job with Leases and NFP. I think everyone can agree that Michael should not teach another section of FAR ever. Is he in the 2010 homestudy?
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cpanyc007
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ael719 wrote:
Weakest FAR 2009 Sections I have viewed so far:
- Module 9 - Inventory - Michael, the lecturer, basically reads word for
word from the Wiley book (There is a free update provided by Phil is much
better, skip this on the DVD and just use the online one)
- Module 11D - Pensions - This is by far the most confusing of the videos
because of the typos/errors in Wiley. Phil lacks attention to detail and
doesn't explain concepts very well. (There is an update video for this, but
it only goes over the typos in the Wiley book. Stop watching the 2nd
video after 42:00 minutes because everything on the Simulation after that
is incorrect.)
- Module 12 - Accounting for Income Taxes - Phil doesn't break down the
material or explain concepts very well. I was weak in this area and had to
use my college textbook and other materials for clarification.
Those are the sections that I have gone through so far. Cindy does a
great job at breaking down the material and quickly explaining each
concept/topic. Phil is OK at best, he's only a little bit better than the
other 2 lecturers, Gary and Michael.
I've read that Modules 13 and 14 are weak sections, but Yaeger has
posted updates that can replace them? So I'm probably not even going to
bother with the lecturers on my DVD and only watch the online updates
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GOOD NEWS, ael719:
1. In 2010, Michael is no longer doing inventories. He was replaced by Phil. This is how I studies for inventories - went to intermediate accounting and reviewed all the methods. Then, listened to Yaeger material. I felt I was prepared.
2. Pensions: I never had pensions in any of my accounting classes, had to listen to Phil twice, pausing him every 5-10 min or so.
3. Accounting for income taxes: agreed.
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cpanyc007
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ael719 wrote:
Oh yeah, after watching FAR disks 1 to 7 (there are total of 14 disks) I've noticed an inconsistency among lecturers. It seems like the 4 lecturers do not talk to each other or watch each others videos. Each lecturer has his/her own presentation and format style. I figure that each lecturer is given a topic to present and then they film their videos on their own. Then after receiving enough calls about a certain topic, they do a clarification video.
Cindy is the best lecturer because of her attention to detail and how she organizes/breaks down her videos. Each of her videos follow the same format: Review keywords, give required Homework questions, introductory topic explanation, detailed explanation of key topics that follow the Wiley book reading, and finally some multiple choice question/simulation and answers explanations (usually mpc's are mixed in between topics). The BEST thing about Cindy is that she always makes sure to explain the journal entry (recognition), valuation/measurements, and presentation in the financial statements which helps with linking concepts across modules and for understanding "why" things are. She references the Income Statement/Balance sheet presentations on page 128 and 132 about a 100 times throughout all her videos. Cindy answers most of the questions I can come up with in her lectures.
The other lecturers go at their own pace and kind of assume you have a basic understanding of the topic that doesn't need clarification. It is rare for the other lecturers to breakdown a topic from the journal entry and link it to financial statement presentation as well as Cindy does in her videos. The other lecturers simply do a quick overview of the Wiley book and answer multiple choice questions in between. They rarely ever explain "why" things are and instead kind of just give answer explanations similar to how the Wiley book reads. I usually have to refer to my old textbook and other sources for clarification and detailed understanding of the basic topics.
BTW, I know it sounds like I'm being very nitpicky, but Yaeger is still a great review program for the price. It'd be impossible to cover every topic or tidbit of information on the FAR exam. The videos provide a great foundation and structure. If I'm not understanding a module after watching the video, I will usually read the Wiley a couple of times and then it becomes much easier to follow along with the videos and keep up with the other 3 lecturers pace.
I've been thinking ditching my Yaeger HS Audit review because I've only heard terrible things about that section. From what I've sampled on the FAR section, I do not like the lecturer's, Gary, presentation style.. The only thing holding me back is $$$!
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Please note that I am not advocating for Yaeger, but I think you should give Gary a try. Agreed, his style is different. But there are about 13 hrs of instruction time in AUD - listen to the lectures twice and take notes writing in his handout. This is how I passed. Also, do all mps, not only the ones he assigns.
Btw, if you know a person who'd be able to explain to me auditing concepts without putting me to sleep, please let me know. I got an A in my college accounting class, because the professor was calling my name every time I was about to close my eyes. LOL.
Another piece of advice with AUD. A friend gave me his old Roger text, and told me to make a list of mnemonics they use. It helped.
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bonzo_dog
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I really haven't figured out what so many of the people on this site have against Gary. As far as teaching ability, he has always seemed fine to me.
It is true that when going through the audit questions in the text (I've always stopped the video to try to answer before going on, both for this exam and all of the others), I have definitely felt more uncertainty overall about my answers in the Audit section than in the other three, but I think a lot of it has more to do with the Wiley text than to Gary -- either the material needed to answer the question isn't in the text at all (except in the question answer) or it's in only in the audit standard outlines in the back of the book.
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toservehashem
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did yaeger changed a lot from 2008 to 2010? i am doing fare to be taken in july 2010, looking for a male study partner over phone, skype
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