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Posted: 26 Nov 2009 at 16:37 | IP Logged  

Okay, this makes so much more sense! And I tried working a couple problems after reading your explanation, and got those couple problems correct. Thank you so much for the detailed info!

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Posted: 26 Nov 2009 at 17:02 | IP Logged  

Roswell-

 

Can you please give me some background how the pension works?

So SIRAGE helps you to calculated Net Periodic cost can you explain movement of each of these as in part of asset/liability/oci/income statement movement?

I am very confused.

 

Thanks,

 

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Posted: 26 Nov 2009 at 18:07 | IP Logged  

So....

First you calculate SIRAGE which give you your net pension expense for
the year. Your first JE will record the SIR part of this nemonic.

Dr. Net Periodic Pension Cost (for net of SIR)
Dr. Deferred Tax Asset (SIR * 1-Tax Rate)
Cr. Deferred Tax Benefit - I/S
Cr. Pension Benefit Asset/Liability

AGE JE are reclassification adjustments to recored amortization of prior
service costs, net gains/losses, and existing obligations/assets. Since
Accumulated OCI had the unamortized portion of these costs, it makes
sense that once we amortized these costs we need to remove a portion of
them from OCI. See the reclassification JE in my post above.

Our PBO, FV on Plan Asset, Pension Asset/Liability, and Accum OCI
accounts are also affected by other activity during the year.

- FV on Plan assets will increase by any contributions made to the plan
and decrease by any benefits paid out of the plan

- Accum OCI T account will increase by any prior services costs incurred
as a result of plan amendments or CY net losses or decrease by any net
gains CY net gains and loss include actuarial increases/decreases and
differences between the actual & expected return on plan assets) .

- PBO (cr. balance) = Beg Balance + the S & I of SIRAGE + Prior Service
Costs from Plan Amendments + Actuarial Losses - Actuarial Gains -
Benefits Paid

- Pension Plan Asset/Liability which is the funded status of the plan can
be calculated as (FV-PBO). This can have a debit or credit balance
depending on if its over/underfunded. Pension Plan Asset/Liability is
affected by the SIR (will be credits to T account), Prior Service Cost due to
plan amendments (credit), Net Loss (credit), Net Gain (debit), &
Contributions (debit). If you have Becker, note that the pass key on pg. 14
is a little misleading in my opinion. The Passkey looks a the account from
an asset pov. However, you can seen a liability T account in the appendix.

Don't know if that answered you question but hope it helped a little.

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Posted: 26 Nov 2009 at 23:52 | IP Logged  

Thank you so much for making it easier.. I am planning to look at it first thing morning and would surely let you know if further questions..

 

Your fundamernatls are very strong all the best for the test.

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Posted: 27 Nov 2009 at 17:23 | IP Logged  

Roswell-

I have following questions about pension now:

1 Return on plan assets: We are adjusting interest cost for expected return? Should we not adjust for the diff between actual return and expected return? Am I missing something here?

2- Prior service cost that gets amortized is the result of cost which hit OCI in past and so JE would have been OCI DR and Pension Benefit liability credit .

If it is given in questions that we need to adjust for such amounts in current year we need to do so right?

3- Amortization of Gain and loss also I have same question.

4- And whenever they are asking question about what is the balance of Pension benefit asset or liability it is same as funded status?

Alternatively we can calculate as:

1- PBO - FV of plan assets at the beginning

Adjust for Service, Interest and Return on plan assets (pre tax) as tax effecte goes to Deferred tax asset/ liability

Adjsutment for AGE items incurred during year and not amortized

And Contributions if made any.

I would really appreciate clarification on these topics.

TIA

 

 

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