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RockyCali
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secret_cpa99 wrote:
I know someone who went to school with me at a AACSB state school and he pulled a 2.6 GPA undergrad.  He went to Keller after for graduate school (couldn't get in anywhere else) and has a 3.9 GPA.  Hmm...


Publicly traded for profit schools have a financial incentive to give good grades and pass students.  If they failed people at a high rate they would lose out on revenues since the students could no longer attend. 
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I am not even going to justify this with further response and argument.  It really is pointless to get on here and bicker and argue.  I personally am completely pleased with Keller and have zero regrets about going there.... Zero.  I believe that simply getting an MBA alone is generally insufficient, by itself, in today's tough economy as a tool to obtain high-paying or high-level employment.  And this is probably more true for Keller than for AACSB accredited schools... I admit it and I agree!  However, I am simply making a point in relation to the CPA exam.  If someone passes all 4 parts of the exam on the first attempt, that alone speaks volumes and that alone is what is attractive to accounting firms.  I mean, give me a break... That person could have done to Keller, or, elsewhere, it is irrelevant.  I have talked to several people in the industry (no, not Keller employers and/or grads, but, people in high level CPA positions at accounting firms, and who own accounting firms!  And they universally agree with me.)

RockyCali, just for your information, Keller will not allow you to graduate without a 3.0 CUM gpa in the end... and this is NOT remotely easy to obtain even at Keller, in these tough accounting courses, for people with liberal arts degrees from 20 years ago who have never taken accounting or a business course or a math course beyond trig., and are looking for career changes and therefore are back in school for their MBA and CPA.  It is *not* the "hand out a degree" mill that it is rumored to me... I am there and I know.  We are using the same exact books as required in accounting courses at Harvard for their MBA program, and I know this because I checked the curriculum for both institutions.  So I really have no idea what you are talking about.  (?)

Boise - I did graduate from UW, however, I really could not care less what you think or what your opinions are.

That being said, re: this topic, I am done, and I am "over it." 

Good luck to all of you with your careers, courses and CPA exam scores :)

 

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KLWashington wrote:

I am not even going to justify this with further response and argument.  It really is pointless to get on here and bicker and argue.  I personally am completely pleased with Keller and have zero regrets about going there.... Zero.  I believe that simply getting an MBA alone is generally insufficient, by itself, in today's tough economy as a tool to obtain high-paying or high-level employment.  And this is probably more true for Keller than for AACSB accredited schools... I admit it and I agree!  However, I am simply making a point in relation to the CPA exam.  If someone passes all 4 parts of the exam on the first attempt, that alone speaks volumes and that alone is what is attractive to accounting firms.  I mean, give me a break... That person could have done to Keller, or, elsewhere, it is irrelevant.  I have talked to several people in the industry (no, not Keller employers and/or grads, but, people in high level CPA positions at accounting firms, and who own accounting firms!  And they universally agree with me.)

RockyCali, just for your information, Keller will not allow you to graduate without a 3.0 CUM gpa in the end... and this is NOT remotely easy to obtain even at Keller, in these tough accounting courses, for people with liberal arts degrees from 20 years ago who have never taken accounting or a business course or a math course beyond trig., and are looking for career changes and therefore are back in school for their MBA and CPA.  It is *not* the "hand out a degree" mill that it is rumored to me... I am there and I know.  We are using the same exact books as required in accounting courses at Harvard for their MBA program, and I know this because I checked the curriculum for both institutions.  So I really have no idea what you are talking about.  (?)

Boise - I did graduate from UW, however, I really could not care less what you think or what your opinions are.

That being said, re: this topic, I am done, and I am "over it." 

Good luck to all of you with your careers, courses and CPA exam scores :)

 

My comment wasn't directed at you.  It was intended to warn anyone reading your posts that you're full of *removed* and should not be trusted.

Your posts are suspect because they sound like they same For-Profit argument that is constantly repeated on other forums by students and employees of these diploma mills.

My point is that anyone who is considering attending one of these garbage schools needs to do their research.  It won't take long to figure out that there are much better options.



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KLWashington wrote:

I am not even going to justify this with further response and argument.  It really is pointless to get on here and bicker and argue.  I personally am completely pleased with Keller and have zero regrets about going there.... Zero.  I believe that simply getting an MBA alone is generally insufficient, by itself, in today's tough economy as a tool to obtain high-paying or high-level employment.  And this is probably more true for Keller than for AACSB accredited schools... I admit it and I agree!  However, I am simply making a point in relation to the CPA exam.  If someone passes all 4 parts of the exam on the first attempt, that alone speaks volumes and that alone is what is attractive to accounting firms.  I mean, give me a break... That person could have done to Keller, or, elsewhere, it is irrelevant.  I have talked to several people in the industry (no, not Keller employers and/or grads, but, people in high level CPA positions at accounting firms, and who own accounting firms!  And they universally agree with me.)

RockyCali, just for your information, Keller will not allow you to graduate without a 3.0 CUM gpa in the end... and this is NOT remotely easy to obtain even at Keller, in these tough accounting courses, for people with liberal arts degrees from 20 years ago who have never taken accounting or a business course or a math course beyond trig., and are looking for career changes and therefore are back in school for their MBA and CPA.  It is *not* the "hand out a degree" mill that it is rumored to me... I am there and I know.  We are using the same exact books as required in accounting courses at Harvard for their MBA program, and I know this because I checked the curriculum for both institutions.  So I really have no idea what you are talking about.  (?)

Boise - I did graduate from UW, however, I really could not care less what you think or what your opinions are.

That being said, re: this topic, I am done, and I am "over it." 

Good luck to all of you with your careers, courses and CPA exam scores :)

 




Keller has a financial incentive to pass people to the next level.  A 3.0 at Keller could be equivalent to a 1.0 at a competitive AACSB accredited school. Although it is very difficult to compare GPAs.  Good state universities have little incentive to pass poor students. The curriculum doesn't matter nearly as much as the professors.  Full time professors at AACSB institutions are always well known in their fields.  AACSB accreditation always says a lot about the quality of a program. Good luck finding employment with your expensive for profit online degree!
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Boise wrote:

My point is that anyone who is considering attending one of these garbage schools needs to do their research.  It won't take long to figure out that there are much better options.

Hi Boise,

I wish I could have read your comment earlier. I am in the process of enrolling into Keller. I already paid for the application fee ($50) and evaluation for my degree ($115). It is not too late to opt out, I guess.

You said in your post that there are much better options: what are they? I am working in HR, having a non-accounting degree in another country, and want to change my career. I have completed several accounting classes at community college level. Do you think I can obtain enough units this way and take prep courses to sit for CPA exam? Or should I go get my MAcc and then CPA? You know, the problem getting admitted into other good schools is that they require very high GMAT scores, which is time-consuming as well. I have a full time job, 2 kids, and a house to take care of. So Keller seems to accomodate my needs except that it is not a good school. I live in San Jose, CA. I do not know what other better options for me.

So I really do not know what to do. Pls could you advise?

Thank you.

 

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