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Ben is a limited partner in three different partnerships. Two of the partnerships lost money and one was profitable: Partnership A: loss of $2,000, Partnership B: profit of $3,300, Partnership C: loss of $4,100. What is the amount of deductible loss on Ben’s individual tax return as a passive loss?investments?

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My question is aren't Passive activity gains and losses netted together?

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Take a look at this for example:

Horace Fife is a 20 percent partner of a local convenience store although he does not actively participate in its operations. This year he was allocated a loss from this business of $24,000. He also owns shares of several publicly held companies and received dividends this year of $17,000. Fife owns two rental houses. During the year, their revenues totaled to $40,000 and operating expenses were $30,000. Finally, Fife held a share of a limited partnership and reported income this year of $4,000 as a result of that ownership. What is the increase in Fife's adjusted gross income as a result of all these investments?

Ans:17000.

So here Profit and losses from PAL are netted. How is this different from the first question?

 



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The first thing to take note of in questions like these is that they state there is a limited partnership interest or that the partner does
not materially participate. This is a red flag that you should begin thinking about PAL rules. Otherwise, if the partner is a general
partner and does actively participate, then PAL rules don't apply.

Passive activity losses are netted with passive activity income on Form 8582. If there is overall passive income, the income is recognized.
If there is an overall passive loss, the loss is suspended indefinitely to future years to offset passive income in those years.

In the first example, there is passive loss from Partnerships A and C in the amount of $6,100 and passive income of $3,300 which produces an
overall passive loss of $2,800. This passive loss is suspended and may be claimed in future years, should there be sufficient passive
income to absorb the loss.

In the second example, Horace has a passive loss of $24,000 from his 20% partnership interest in the hardware store, passive income of
$10,000 from the two rental houses, and passive income of $4,000 from his other limited partnership interest.

As a result of the passive activities, he will realize an overall passive loss of $10,000 which will be suspended to future years. The
dividend income of $17,000 is portfolio income (interest, dividends, royalties) and is not subject to PAL rules. Thus, the total net effect
of all these transactions on Horace's AGI for the current year is an increase of $17,000.
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Thanks for the prompt reply!!

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